The little red circles on some thumbnails on channels....

Sorry if I missed this earlier when it was discussed or announced...

Can someone point me to an explanation of what these little red circles with the minus sign are?  I am guessing they are relatively new as I don't remember seeing them before.


!Hubzilla Support Forum

I am looking forwards for to be connected to the support forum then. I am not automatically connected but I am (ref to the rename channel discussion) a new user now. I can comment on this on my own stream but I cannot go the the support forum and comment there or like things I see there. There was a good answer from Mike that I would liked to like :)
Is it possible to have the same information on the connection page /connections ?
it is a no entry sign

Maybe it is not the same in all countries
Wonder if this works....

This is not the best way to send a notification, but it might tell me if the problem is with being able to send you emails at all from the system or it is just not sending them when I want it to.

!Brad Benam
I see your test - you pass.
Did you get an email when I posted that?
RaceQs Track for Series 3 Race 1

Here is a link to our RaceQs Track for Series 3 Race 1 - download race Qs and upload your track for the races to see a 3D race replay for the race with the other boats that upload their track as well.   RaceQs is a cool free app for android and iphone.

Race Qs Track For Series 3 Race 1

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EFF Action CenterEFF Action Center wrote the following post Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:53:53 -0700
Don't let Congress Undermine Our Online Privacy
Don't let Congress Undermine Our Online Privacy

The FCC put in place critical broadband privacy protection rules late last year to protect your right to privacy online. Now, some members of Congress are looking to completely erase those rules. Even worse: The method they would use -- passing a Congressional Review Act (CRA) resolution to repeal the rules -- would ban the FCC from ever writing similar privacy rules.

And, because of the current legal landscape, the Federal Trade Commission is already barred from policing Internet service providers. So if Congress repeals the rules, there will be no clear federal cop on the beat for the privacy of your Internet connection.

Call your representatives in Congress and tell them to oppose the CRA resolution to repeal the FCC's privacy rules.

Directory showing up empty.

@Hubzilla Support Forum+

Looks like my directory is showing up empty, selecting this wesbite only or not does not make any difference.  Any ideas how to get this resolved?  I have a bunch of new people joining it would be nice if they could find each other under the "this website" directory.

Also putting anything in the search bar still shows empty result, even when putting in valid channel names.

Could I have accidentally changes some setting to cause that?  I just did a git pull to see if it would help seems to make no difference.

This site is powered by Hubzilla (standard)
Version 2.2

This should be showing the public profiles even for people who are not logged in yes? is down atm. You might want to change your directory server in /admin/site
That did it.  I did not realize directory used an external server.  I learn something new every day.
Calendar Event Imports - Recurring Events - Delegation of Event Scheduling

@Hubzilla Support Forum+

It is interesting how much I am finding out about what I don't know about hubzilla trying to launch this web presence for this club.

Latest challenge is we need to be able to update the events calendar for the org, which has its channel set up now.

In a perfect world I would be able to give various people access to be able to add events to the calendar for their respective departments (we have a cruise chair, a race chair, the people who schedule the membership meetings etc.)  I am hoping I can avoid the old problem of all of them having to send me events to get them on the calendar and instead just be able to give them access to put events up themselves.

Also, I would like to have recurring events (we have a race every Tuesday for six months out of the year, and it seems I have to enter each one of them individually?)

I noticed the shiny import calendar button, and thought I would be really smart and make the recurring event in google calendar and then import it, but not only did it only import a single event and ignore that it was repeating, it also put it at the wrong time because of the time zone adjustment, which makes importing calendars appear to be worse even than entering the events by hand.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks about how we might work with this?  The events calendar is an important feature I am trying to work out a way to set this up so we can make it work.
I will make an effort to take care of that when I get some time to devote to that.  I am sure it will not take long once I get myself accustomed to the methodology of contributing.
Just added the source link to my notes. Maybe this pull request will be my first official contribution to hubzilla :D (If it hasn't been done yet (9 days ago)
I have had a crazy couple of weeks I am doing a sailboat training certification exam in a couple of days which consists of a long trip on a sailboat and a bunch of testing so I have not had any time to get to this (I should have spent twice as long preparing as I have) - I would someday get to this but please feel free :-)

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I have imported the content from Vic's website into a wiki here, I did not edit it or even read through it all, so we should probably update it and correct anything where it needs to be corrected. Please let me know if you want access to the wiki to make changes. Click the link below to see the wiki or click wiki at the top of this channel.

The Marina del Rey Venture MacGregor Fleet -


Here you will find all the information you need to join our Fleet and enter our Races. There is a little History, Information about how we do things, Sailing Instructions, and Race Results. This is about the last place where you can have a full season of racing for $50.00 $20.00 for fleet dues and $30.00 race fees for 30 races. I think that's prett...

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Marshall SutherlandMarshall Sutherland wrote the following post Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:06:28 -0800
Precious Plastic - Promo


We developed DIY machines that enable everyone to build a little plastic workshop. Now share it into every corner of the world and let the recycling begin!
Awesome.  I want one.
You can download the plans and build one.
Ya I am watching the videos - this is a cool concept.
Open Bazaar Blog Republish

I set up an Open Bazaar blog republish channel if anyone wants to keep up to date from inside hubzilla...  Very interesting project if you are not aware, it is a good thing to pay attention to.
Happy holiday season however you celebrate it.  For us it is a time of family and joy and connecting to those we love and showing appreciation for each other.  However it is you do whatever you do, I wish you well in doing it!
I wish the same to you! Good morning :coffee
I am thinking of doing community privacy workshops where we have people bring in their mobile devices and laptops etc. and we do presentations on how to improve security and privacy and help them get set up.  Maybe we can record some of these presentations so we can make the information widely available and so people in other areas can get together and actually get their devices working.  The idea of having people actually meet up and work on their machines is not a new one (I went to many users groups meetings in the early years of computer adoption), but I think it has been more in the form of clubs, and if we made it a workshop or a class for free we can probably get some movement forward by giving free technical support and help to people who do not really understand how to take any responsibility for their own electronic freedom.
Ya for sure - I have been making videos and helping people move over to open source and secure products - but many people cannot seem to figure stuff out without some help.
DeeplinksDeeplinks wrote the following post Fri, 23 Dec 2016 00:11:26 -0800
Protecting Net Neutrality and the Open Internet: 2016 in Review
Protecting Net Neutrality and the Open Internet: 2016 in Review

In 2016 we won one battle in the fight for the Open Internet – but several others are well underway and we expect Team Internet will have to mobilize once again to protect our gains and prevent further efforts to undermine network neutrality.

Almost two years ago, thanks in large part to a massive mobilization of Internet users, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) finally issued an Open Internet Order to protect net neutrality. While far from perfect, the new Order was on strong legal footing, with some limits in place to help prevent FCC overreach. Before the year was out, however, the battle for the Internet moved to the courts, as broadband providers tried to get a judge to derail the new rules. After months of wrangling, in June 2016 a federal appeals court instead approved the Order – a crucial win for Team Internet.

With that done, the FCC has focused on establishing privacy rules for users, including giving users new rights and requiring providers to seek user permission before using our private information. So while a handful of victory laps were taken this year for network neutrality, new threats are emerging and 2017 promises to be struggle to preserve the gains millions of Internet users fought so hard to win.

Moving from the Courts to the Legislature

As noted, as of June 14, 2016, when the federal appeals court overwhelmingly sided with Internet users, it is now settled law that companies that provide broadband service are “common carriers” and therefore subject to the nondiscrimination laws that exist under Title II of the Communications Act. This decision settled what has been a multi-year fight over the role of the FCC in consumer protection and oversight of the broadband industry. But that has simply shifted the struggle to Congress. In particular, members of Congress attempted to remove funding from the FCC as a means to block the Open Internet rule as well as other threats to lawfully connecting devices to the network.

It seems unlikely that the next Congress will continue the series of attacks on the agency as they will want to allow the new incoming leadership an opportunity to lead the agency. While we do not know who will be the new Chair of the FCC, we suspect the incoming Trump Administration will want to appoint Commissioners that have the intent to reverse course on an open Internet despite support from both Republican and Democratic FCC Chairmen from years past.

The Open Internet Order and Privacy Rights

One of the unfinished parts of the 2015 Open Internet Order was how the changed legal status of broadband providers would impact their obligations to protect consumer privacy. After all, it was already well established law that the telephone company was not allowed to know who you talked to, listen in on your call, or monitor who is contacting you unless it was for the purposes of providing you the service. How would that prohibition apply to broadband companies?

On November 2, after soliciting extensive public comment, the FCC release new rules to answer that question. Those rules explain what network practices are acceptable and under what circumstances broadband providers must ask for consumers' permission to use their information. They also gave breathing room for "pay for privacy" business models. The rules were a net positive for Internet users. We can now look forward to new privacy protections for online activities, and new powers to grant or deny providers permission use of our information.

New Threats Emerge in the Form of Zero Rating

Despite these big wins, Internet service providers have been working all year to find ways to undermine net neutrality and regain their positions as arbiters of how traffic is treated on their networks—particularly via zero rating. Back in January, EFF showed how T-Mobile's Binge On program, which claimed to "optimize" streaming video, was nothing more than a system designed to throttle video bandwidth. When EFF asked T-Mobile's CEO to come clean about the program, his infamous response was "Who the $%&* are you anyway EFF, why are you stirring up so much trouble, and who pays you?"—which of course prompted many of our supporters to educate the sadly uninformed telco executive.

T-Mobile wasn't the only ISP to try to undermine net neutrality via zero rating. AT&T and Verizon have also been major offenders, particularly when it comes to zero rating their own content. By doing so, ISPs are using their position as Internet gatekeepers to funnel customers to their own content, thereby distorting the open playing field the Internet typically provides. While the FCC has begun to take measures to rein in some of the most egregious practices, it's clear that zero rating will continue to be a major battlefield in the fight for net neutrality.

We Must Stand Firm in Our Continued Fight for Internet Freedom

As long as there are players (whether they be governments or major corporations) that stand to gain by changing the fundamental openness and neutrality of the Internet, the fight will always continue.

We are prepared to aggressively defend the Open Internet order at the FCC and in Congress next year because the stakes are too great. Too many Americans have only one choice for high speed broadband and far too many lack access all together. While EFF has had a long history of wariness at FCC involvement in regulating broadband companies, the fact of the matter is the U.S. market is excessively concentrated and lacks real choice. Without some fundamental basic rules ensuring nondiscriminatory treatment of network traffic, we fear that a free and open Internet will come to an end.

So while we do not know what new arenas or new fronts the battle for a free and open Internet will take, we can promise that EFF will always be there fighting on behalf of the user community, whether it is in Congress, the FCC, or the courts.

This article is part of our Year In Review series. Read other articles about the fight for digital rights in 2016.

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I didn't read Kris' comments but I can tell you that Kris isn't as rude as he seems sometimes. There's a language issue and after re-reading a few times, it often comes out different.
Will understood me correctly, I wanted a  user oriented summary. Mike did it perfectly. I wanted to publish the good news but how to explain that hubzilla is better now ? I ask that not only for me but also for people who don't know Hubzilla. Who talk about Hubzilla outside here in Hubzilla uniserve.

I must defend myself. I am french speaking native. Between english and french there is not only a question of translation. There is a question of cultural thinking. When I try to improve something, I am doing my best but sometimes, some people can understand that I try to destroy and that I am negative and that I am not happy or I always speak negatively. I know my communication is not always the best and I must think in english instead thinking in french.

I must apology with @Michael McKinsey when I am commenting his post so I must be double carefull next time I comment  something on his post.
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There is an idea that I come across quite often that people believe telling someone what they have done wrong or are not doing right is somehow useful and this becomes their default activity.  There are very specific contexts in which pointing out what is wrong with something is useful, and almost all of them involve someone having asked for that input.  

In my personal opinion, I do not believe in complaining about something unless I am willing to work on fixing it.  I think complaining is the same thing as volunteering.  If I am not willing to do the heavy lifting to fix something, it is not useful for me to waste my and everyone else's energy talking about what I think is not the best way it could be.

Especially in situations where people are stepping up to do things for no pay, or for idealistic motivations, or primarily for social encouragement reasons, spending a bunch of energy criticizing the people who are doing the work, or the work they have done, is actually a detractor from the project.  Contributors are offended and hurt, and they lose the motivation to keep working because they are attacked and insulted by people who are not contributing anything and nobody defends them.  The number of people who actually contribute is reduced to the handful of people who can keep their focus and determination to do something that has questionable and unclear personal gain while being criticized and attacked, which then leads to even less than the number of people who would contribute if the community they were contributing to would actually support and appreciate the people who are contributing.  This happens in thousands of organizations big and small all over the world every day.  The people who are complaining about the state of the world, or the state of a project, or whatever else they are complaining about, ensure that these things will never get any better by their self destructive choice to choose resentment and criticism as the basis of their personalities and by doing so sucking the energy out of the projects they are complaining about and driving away the people who would have made it better.

I do not think Kris is purposely trying to suck energy out of the project, he is probably a reasonable human being, and I can see the language barrier is an issue.  He also seems to be trying to contribute by doing translations so that certainly is a redeeming factor, though generally speaking people who are this critical are not able to sustain energy to actually make a net positive result, we will see.  

I posted this thread to say hurrah, and thanks, and instead it quickly became Kris creating another task for the people who were already busy doing the work they do here because he did not like the way the information was presented.  Kris is always talking about communities, a community is only useful if the sum total of being connected to it is positive, a community full of negative energy sucking parasites is not useful and new people who would have been productive and involved will just quickly move away and you will never know they even stopped by to look.

The jury is still out for me if Kris gets the ignore stick along with the majority of humanity, but I thought I would make an effort to point out what was objectionable to me before just ignoring him as he can probably make a conscious effort to stop being a black hole sucking energy if he wants to.

Also saying these things out loud can sometimes help a group of people form a cultural identity where they are committed to being appreciative and supportive of the people who contribute to the community instead of it being a competition of who can complain and attack those people in the most self serving way until there is nobody left to complain to.  It is awesome when a community gets this kind of identity, because it will stand up and defend the contributors itself so the highest value individuals do not have to waste their energy doing it themselves, and this will bring in more contributors who can see the community is a worthwhile place to contribute.
I love the EFF - and certbot is awesome.  I love the idea I am never going to pay for another SSL cert or have to worrry about renewing it, ever.  Thanks EFF.
DeeplinksDeeplinks wrote the following post Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:07:27 -0800
EFF Ad in Wired: Tech Community Must Secure Networks Against Trump Administration
EFF Ad in Wired: Tech Community Must Secure Networks Against Trump Administration

President-Elect Threatens Free and Open Internet

San Francisco - In a full-page advertisement in Wired magazine, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has a warning for the technology community: “Your threat model just changed.”

EFF’s open letter calls on technologists to secure computer networks against overreaches by the upcoming Trump administration and to protect a free, secure, and open Internet. The January issue of Wired with EFF’s open letter on page 63 hit newsstands today.

“Our goal is to rally everyone who makes digital tools and services to this important cause: protect your technology and networks from censorship and government surveillance,” said EFF Activism Director Rainey Reitman. “The Internet was created to connect and empower people around the world. We cannot let it be conscripted into a tool of oppression. But if we are going to protect the Internet, we need a lot of help. Wired has been looking to the technological future for over two decades, and its readers have the skills we need.”

EFF’s open letter outlines four major ways the technology community can help: using encryption for every user transaction; practicing routine deletion of data logs; revealing publicly any government request to improperly monitor users or censor speech; and joining the fight for user rights in court, in Congress, and beyond.

“EFF has fought for the rights of creators and users since 1990—through four presidential administrations,” said EFF Executive Director Cindy Cohn. “We’ve battled privacy invasions, censorship attempts, and power grabs from Democrats and Republicans alike. Now, President-Elect Trump has promised to increase surveillance, undermine security, and suppress the freedom of the press. But he needs your servers to do this. Join us in securing civil liberties in the digital world, before it’s too late.”

For the full ad in Wired:

For more on how the tech community can defend users:




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Amen to this.  I have been saying this for years, our job is to work to keep the government our of our comms and our systems.  This has challenges but it is the important bar we need to reach is to make this too difficult for the government to track everything.  #hubzilla is a good replacement for a lot of the central server targets IMHO.
DeeplinksDeeplinks wrote the following post Mon, 19 Dec 2016 14:51:52 -0800
EFF's 2017 Wishlist
EFF's 2017 Wishlist

For the last five years, EFF has greeted the holiday season by publishing a list of things we'd like to see happen in the coming year. Sometimes these are actions we'd like to see taken by companies, and sometimes our wishes are aimed at governments, but we also include actions everyday people can take to advance our digital civil liberties. This year has seen a few victories, including the fact that more and more websites are using HTTPS by default and using Let's Ecrypt's Cerbot client, but there's always more to do. In 2017, we're narrowing our focus to technology companies and challenging them to step up and protect their users in what's likely to be a difficult year.

Here are some of the things EFF would like to see technology companies do in 2017:
  • Google should make it possible for users to enable 2-factor authentication without having to give the company their phone number, however briefly.
  • Twitter should turn off the ability to reset your password over SMS when users enable 2-factor authentication.
  • Twitter should enable end-to-end encrypted direct messages.
  • Apple should enable some form of out-of-band verification for iMessage and Facetime.
  • W3C members should back our call to protect accessibility, security research, and innovation in DRM standardization.
  • Google should stop mining the data they collect from students using Chromebooks for advertising.
  • Facebook should stop making itself an arbiter of "authentic names" and allow people to use whatever name they want on their account.
  • WhatsApp should continue to allow users to opt out of data-sharing with their parent company, Facebook. Currently, the opt-out deadline has passed and new WhatsApp accounts do not have the option of opting out of data-sharing at all.
We'll be keeping track of these companies over the year to see which of these wishes come true, so stay tuned. This blog post is part of a campaign asking the technology community to defend users and digital rights.

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Trying to invite a new account to a chat session...

@Hubzilla Support Forum+

Hi All,

Day before yesterday I started a chat on one of my hubzilla servers, and added a connection from a friend on another server.  I sent him a link to the chat, and when he hit my server it gave him authentication denied messages.  He was logged into his account on another hub in another tab, usually this authentication just works.


I had added him as a connection, and he was authorized for the chat, coming in from a different server on a newly created account.  Is there some time frame or syncing issue that would keep him from authenticating right away?  I was not sure what to tell him and eventually he just gave up.  Not sure if there is something I was missing here in how to get him authenticated for the chat session, does he need to be clicking the link from inside his hubzilla tab where he is logged in, or is being logged in somewhere in another tab enough?  I sent him the link out of band, and I am still not 100% sure about how the cross site authentication is working, should I have sent him the link through hubzilla to the other account?  Does that matter?
That is it - I sent him the link through a text message and he clicked on it, so it was not getting whatever tags it needed.  I was always confused about how that was working in the first place, now it makes much more sense.  So if I had sent it to his hubzilla account he could have clicked on it, or just click login and remote auth and it would have worked.  Thanks!
Actually I just went back over the steps and I had sent it to him in a hubzilla private mail message so he was clicking on it from inside hubzilla, so I see you said that is one place it does not work.  I guess clicking login and remote authentication might have worked but he was logged in and clicking on the link from inside a private mail message in hubzilla, which you said does not add the tags.  So how should I have sent him that link?  Post it to my timeline with just him as someone that can see it?
I thought I fixed this last week but it turns out there were still bits missing. So getting the correct links in private mail probably won't hit master until 2.2 (it's in 2.1 dev now). I suggest a private post in the meantime rather than private mail.
Protonmail Secure Encrypted Web Email - Introduction and Tutorial Video

Make a account when you are there and earn some digital currency for posting original content and for upvoting good content you like. This is not a project I am involved in other than I am posting my new public original content that I was posting for free anyway, and there it earns me money. It is worth checking it out, this or something like it will be part of the way we take back social media from giant corporations that are selling our value to advertisers and participating in government surveillance instead of us sharing the value together.
Block Chain Social Media Getting Paid to Share and Up-vote is Awesome!

  last edited: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 09:16:21 -0800 - quite simply, wow.  I have been playing on for the last couple of days, and if you have not seen this platform, go make an account immediately and start checking it out, this is simply an incredible platform and a really awesome thing everyone should at least know about.

Not anything like hubzilla really, and as far as I am concerned not even in the same class on any level or even in competition with us here at hubzilla.  Steemit is about how you use the blockchain to reward quality original content creation in a social media like environment.  

Go to - make an account - do a bit of looking around - upvote and follow me of course @mmc1800 on as well.

If you check out my introduction post:

I made $24 US worth of digital currency for posting that - the market and liquidation is quite solid as well.  Though this $24 is spread across a couple different reward types several of which are designed to encourage you to keep using the system (which I will) - the actual take the cash and run from this post seems to be about $10 US if I wanted to.

I also posted the video I had made to show how to log in to hubzilla and a basic intro to it:

This video which I had already posted on youtube netted me another $22 worth of rewards.

This is not earth shattering cash for me, I am not suggesting everyone quit there jobs and turn into bloggers, but if you have high quality original content of any kind (art, stories, reviews, ideas, pretty much anything) - I can not see any down side to posting it on steemit and getting rewarded by a community that is there to encourage high quality original content.

My son made an introduction, he made some cash as well.

The money you make though is not really the whole story, this is actually social media I feel enriched from reading and participating in.  You get paid for upvoting good content as well, and you can start to follow people who make stuff you like.  The system is set up to really discourage low quality or plagiarized stuff, so almost everything I read is original, creative, valuable, and awesome.

I recommend this to say the least, this is a really cool concept.

I plan on making a short intro and howto video shortly for steemit, but you hardly need it super easy to get your account set up if you are not new to digital currencies or passwords that you need to make sure you never forgot (your account is a digital currency wallet on their blockchain).
@Marshall Sutherland Awesome question, it is a little hard to get your head around at first.  There is a rather complex set of tokens they use to distribute the rewards, but for a simple answer to your question it is the value of the currency that is generated by the blockchain at every block similar to mining that is distributed among the people whos content is upvoted the most.  So there are people mining, and they get some of the rewards for mining, but also currency is generated from the consensus algorithm similar to mining and it is distributed based on how much Steem power has voted for it (not all votes are equal, people who have contributed more have stronger votes).

For simplicity sake, they have a token called SBD ( which is always closely balanced against the USD so they can report to people what they earn in USD.  Some of the reward is paid in a different kind of token which increases your voting power, and there is yet another token which can only be drawn down over a couple of years.  The miners get only the kind of reward that can be drawn down over 2 years, the short term redeemable rewards are awarded by the community for the content they appreciate the most by upvoting with their Steem power.  The most of your power you can devote to any one post in one day is 5%, so to allocate all your votes you need to upvote (or flag) 20 things.

You are also paid rewards for finding good content early (curation rewards).  So if you upvote something early, that later lots of people end up upvoting, you also get rewarded for that.  You get some reward for upvoting everything, but upvoting good content early pays the best.  You can also buy the currency and voting power in exchanges of course, but being downvoted by using it in a way the community did not like would make it prohibitively expensive to abuse.

I am no expert, just starting to learn how it works but this is my current understanding.

Hope that helps.  There is a white paper which I have scanned, but it is not easy reading:,d.cGc
Really I like that mix of crypto currency and a social network I think is a good idea for promote users and post
I just scrolled through that document in about a minute or two which is enough time to grasp that there is quite a lot of stuff in there, LOL.